I’ve been playing and having monthly lessons but can’t get rid of these issues and only just starting to fix my overswing. Mainly having issues with contact/ball striking, usually thinning. Can’t stay down in the shot, if I do I fat it.
@Zeke
The best and simplest swing advice I’ve been given is to “swing like you’re heaving a big ass rock forward.”
If you chuck a rock forward with OP’s swing, your back is going to be toast. If you’re throwing something heavy, your body knows what to do to mess itself up. Really helps keeping your weight forward as well.
@Val
I like it. The perfect mix of “skip the stone” and bowling ball drill.
You’re not leading with your lower body.
Stevie said:
You’re not leading with your lower body.
Leading with the lower body is how most amateurs get stuck in transition.
Can’t believe this is still a common suggestion.
It isn’t physically possible to lead with your arms.
You can try, but your brain won’t allow it.
This has been measured.
@Tory
Yup, most destructive advice out there.
Stevie said:
You’re not leading with your lower body.
Your body is smart. It knows it has to do this in order to hit the ball straight. There are other issues that are too complicated for most of us on Reddit to be able to figure out. Be patient. Your coach will get there when your swing is ready for it.
@Kale
That’s interesting because my sequence is the opposite. Hips, shoulders, and then hands. I feel like my arms work a little but mostly just going for the ride and focus on hands would just be directional toward the target. A proper grip eliminates many variables and mistakes the hands can make.
If this sequence works for you, great. But I would not recommend this for most. Leading with arms will create a lot of issues for most.
@Kale
What works for you doesn’t work for everyone.
This guy has absolutely zero lower body movement or hip turn.
He’s flipping through with hands only.
Stevie said:
@Kale
What works for you doesn’t work for everyone.
This guy has absolutely zero lower body movement or hip turn.
He’s flipping through with hands only.
Exactly. What pro leads with arms? https://youtube.com/shorts/YFUw4fM1Hc8?si=qGLDYuRf5oDGOZ9M Look at those hips leading.
@Kale
Hands and shoulders first is literally how most come over the top.
@Kale
Less arm pulling down, more rotating with core and hips. Your hips aren’t rotating; they are just extending straight, and you’re hitting at the ball with your arms. You need to stay centered and turn starting with your left knee and hip; they need to rotate around the corner. Leave your arms behind; you’re using them too much.
Looks like you do release early.
Try hitting very low cuts without taking a divot. When you do that, you will naturally change your posture through the ball.
Check out TPI video on early extension; it can be due to hip and ankle tightness.
You stopped turning your shoulders on the downswing.
Notice how your shoulders are pointing downrange at impact? Your shoulders should be turned around your spine more to your left at impact, as much as you can. Some even say your sternum should be almost pointing downrange at contact with the ball.
Practice hitting the turf without a ball. Get the bounce of the club working and scuffing/slipping the ground with good feel (square club face, no chunking, flush sole to the ground, not too light either where you feel almost zero resistance but that is better than a hard chunk). Then put a ball in the section and still think about getting that same turf interaction. Also test if your clubs fit you. Close your eyes and just brush the ground with the club naturally. If you feel the heel chunking, the clubs are probably too upright, and you never want clubs (except maybe woods) too upright. It will remove any help from the sole of the club. I bring this up because you are raising your body and hands a bit, and it could be in an attempt to instinctively get that club flush to the ground, and stock clubs are too upright for most people except for the exceptionally tall and short-armed.
I believe a lot of your inconsistency issues stem from your excessive grip rotation action (flippy) just prior and through the impact zone. Having flippy hands is not a horrible thing; if you do it well, it can be a beautiful thing. The problem is that it’s a total timing variable. On good days, great! On bad timing days, it can be very inconsistent. Unfortunately, with flippy hands, it’s a shot-by-shot variable. I highly recommend you minimize this action if you want to help eliminate these missed shots. The golf swing doesn’t really need much rolling rotation in it almost at all. It APPEARS like the hands are voluntarily rotated or rolled over, but in actuality, it’s an optical illusion; you seem to roll yours a little too excessively, IMHO. The grip is a hinge that basically moves in one way; you’re turning as it releases, and it looks like it’s being rolled over.
Step drills till you’re so sick of it you’re going crazy, my dude.