Impressive but at the same time amazed they let you on the course in those conditions. Any frost here and they close the course. They say you can’t walk on the greens when frosty cos big damage.
Lior said:
Impressive but at the same time amazed they let you on the course in those conditions. Any frost here and they close the course. They say you can’t walk on the greens when frosty cos big damage.
I have dead grass in the shape of foot prints in my front yard from walking to my car on frosty mornings. I can’t imagine the course after this
Cairo said:
@Wesley
I don’t understand what sensitive grass you have - seems to be a US thing - maybe a different type?
In the UK it’s completely normal for courses to be open in those conditions.
I’m in Ireland and when there is frost in the morning course remains closed until thaw. I think we have a mix of grass but mostly poa annua which I understand is basically native grass. Not sure what the other type is.
Cairo said:
@Wesley
I don’t understand what sensitive grass you have - seems to be a US thing - maybe a different type?
In the UK it’s completely normal for courses to be open in those conditions.
The grass in the southern US (fescue, zoysia) goes dormant and turns tan in the winter, and any foot traffic with frost can cause damage.
I found that out the hard way my first winter here. My kids tore up my backyard lol
@Noor
> The grass in the southern US (fescue, zoysia)
Funny you leave out bermuda. Here in central Texas, almost all the courses are bermuda. Also terrible to walk on when frozen though.
Ocean said:
@Noor
> The grass in the southern US (fescue, zoysia)
Funny you leave out bermuda. Here in central Texas, almost all the courses are bermuda. Also terrible to walk on when frozen though.
Yeah missed the obvious one. Looking forward to seeing some green again soon
Cairo said:
@Wesley
I don’t understand what sensitive grass you have - seems to be a US thing - maybe a different type?
In the UK it’s completely normal for courses to be open in those conditions.
Well, I’m not a golf-grassologist but it seems pretty likely that grass variations is part of it. We don’t even have the same type of grass throughout the US. Different regions use different species.
I live in snow country and its standard that courses won’t open until the frost burns off. Considering how money hungry our golf courses are, I have to believe they have legitimate reasons
Cairo said:
@Wesley
I don’t understand what sensitive grass you have - seems to be a US thing - maybe a different type?
In the UK it’s completely normal for courses to be open in those conditions.
Our course was saying it’s a non issue. According to them ‘new research suggests’. UK
@Chen
I had a chat with our greenkeeper on the weekend - there was a big thread on this on here last week and was curious.
He said the only issue it causes is the pitch marks that aren’t repaired (when it’s impossible to repair them with frozen ground). Said he’d never seen a footprint of dead grass in 15 years, he was at Carnoustie for a few years too.
It must be a grass thing - Americans seem stunned when we’re all out playing in minus temps in the UK.
@Winter
We play Winter Greens when it’s frozen over which is just a temp hole in the fairway just short of the green at our course but never close - UK
Kit said:
@Winter
We play Winter Greens when it’s frozen over which is just a temp hole in the fairway just short of the green at our course but never close - UK
We used to have that on a few greens with us, but when this guy joined as greenkeeper we’ve stayed fully open through cold weather. They do close the whole course if it’s wet a lot though. Greens are always exceptional by April.
@Winter
Less pitch marks when the ground is so cold, too
Cairo said:
@Wesley
I don’t understand what sensitive grass you have - seems to be a US thing - maybe a different type?
In the UK it’s completely normal for courses to be open in those conditions.
Idk what kind of grass it is, but basically the frost on the grass means when you step on it the grass isn’t bending like it would when it’s warm. It just snaps the frozen blades leaving you a bunch of dying spots of grass.
Cairo said:
@Wesley
I don’t understand what sensitive grass you have - seems to be a US thing - maybe a different type?
In the UK it’s completely normal for courses to be open in those conditions.
Yeah was gonna say. Played a few weeks ago in the frost and frozen conditions where the greens were like concrete. Played again last week and the green are completely fine still now that it’s thawed
@Wesley
Yea I’ve seen those footprints on a green before, it definitely snaps the blades of grass and kills it in the shape of a footprint
Lior said:
Impressive but at the same time amazed they let you on the course in those conditions. Any frost here and they close the course. They say you can’t walk on the greens when frosty cos big damage.
As a former Assistant Superintendent, this was my first thought.
Lior said:
Impressive but at the same time amazed they let you on the course in those conditions. Any frost here and they close the course. They say you can’t walk on the greens when frosty cos big damage.
Yeah, I was trying to understand what course lets you play with frost on the ground…
@Lane
Many courses over here (Netherlands) let you play in these conditions.
Hadley said:
@Lane
Many courses over here (Netherlands) let you play in these conditions.
What types of grasses do you play on over there? Very curious.